A few thoughts of Fetishism

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    The Guardian writer, Sophie Morgan, wrote a piece in 2012 about '50 Shades of Grey' and how it misrepresented the submissive.


    "At this point I must admit to a vested interest: I am a submissive. When you put it that way it sounds terribly big and significant...
    ...But being submissive is only one facet of the person I am – and not even the most important. I'm a 33-year-old girlfriend, daughter, sister, friend, journalist, Scrabble fiend, caffeine addict and dozens of other things besides. And, despite what you might have read to the contrary, my sexual urges don't overshadow every other aspect of my personality and life." - Read the full article here

    Are we to focus solely on the sexual implications and connotations of fetishism, here in the dungeon of our Queen?
    If not, I would like to leave the floor open to discuss religious affiliations of the idea. As edina mentioned briefly in our Shoutbox chat today.

    In fact, the topic was brought back to the forefront for me with that conversation. I wonder at the lack of participation but I understand such a taboo subject may leave some feeling more comfortable lurking in the shadowy archive of it all.


    Would society consider language a fetish?
    Being quite the sapio~sexual being I must admit a good conversation is far more likely to get my motor running than watching a sex act being played out on screen.
    Passion as intellectual stimulation... a command or charisma of captivation.
    My train of thought has gone off the rails again...

    Incidentally I stumbled upon a Women's Day article: 5 Major Myths about BDsM, while looking for alluring imagery to include in this post... ;)

    "Myth #3: BDSM is a Fetish
    Not exactly. Contrary to what pop culture might have you think, BDSM is not specifically a sexual fetish. “It’s erotic behavior, or kink,” says Los Angeles sex therapist Christine Milrod, PhD." - Check out the article here.
    Of course, I must include a link to the Play~Room and my latest addition to the games...
     
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    Golly its been months since we've delved into the dark side of this one. And since it recently came up in conversation, and guests are creeping about in the corners on it... (tmi)
    (giggles) Come now... don't be shy.... we are all friends here. And even if we are not who would know anyway?
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    I love how so many of my favorite images to break up the language are Anime styled...
    Curiouser and Curiouser

    "There is no universally accepted theory explaining the root of sexual masochism, or sadomasochism. However, some theories attempt to explain the presence of sexual paraphilias in general. One theory suggests that paraphilias originate because inappropriate sexual fantasies are suppressed, and they become stronger as they are forbidden. When they are finally acted upon, a person is in a state of considerable distress and/or arousal. In the case of sexual masochism, masochistic behavior becomes associated with and inextricably linked to sexual behavior. There is also a belief that masochistic individuals actually want to be in the dominating role, which causes them to become conflicted and thus submissive to others."
    ~ Read more at Psychology Today

     
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    This topic of sexuality, sex, anything in the realm, does seem to be the end all be all of discussion.
    Look at its use in affecting one's perception of another person. It doesn't matter if a rumored indiscretion or behavior is true or not, the very idea of it can stain a person's reputation. How easily turned to manipulative tool this taboo subject can be.... Don't want people to take another person seriously? Or perhaps shroud their intentions in mystery? Use sexuality. Use depravity, in some form or another.

    Tell a story. Who cares if its true, when it has to do with this privately public tantalizing topic its done what it set out to do, stick in a person's mind... niggle at them... make them wonder... question... close off from any opportunity to grow for what? Safety?
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    Parasitic Inorganic beings.... that like to stir it up sounds like a topic that deserves more focused attention.
     
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    And by the way...
    What is so wrong with being a masochist? I guess it comes down to the logic. Why is one a masochist? Have they misbehaved and need to be punished? Is it a relinquishing of control they desire? A release from all those bothersome details of being in control of one’s own reality… letting go... of one’s own life and handing oneself over to another flawed human construct? That’s trust.

    But then... where the lines stands for some maybe be grossly beyond the line for others.
    Personally, and I assume responsibility for my Opinion here... realizing others may find it offensive.. but personally I question this being the case within the James Deen Rape in the world of Porn situation going on right now.

    From the Daily Beast 12/02/15:
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    Angel, the porntrepreneur whose Burning Angel label frequently featured Deen after the two met at the start of his career, described Deen’s behavior while they were dating from 2005-2011 as extremely controlling and emotionally manipulative.

    Her most harrowing story revealed a moment in which Angel says she feared for her life as she and Deen were having sex at home. According to Angel, Deen dragged her by the hair and held her head submerged in a sink filled with water as she tapped for air. “At some point he dunked my head underneath and it started to feel like forever. I started to think, ‘I’m gonna die here,’” she said.

    “I started to get really scared and I was tapping and I was tapping, and finally he picked my head up. I started crying and he threw me on the floor and said, ‘You’re a horrible submissive. I’m bored, I’m gonna go fuck someone else.’ And he just left the house.”

    I feel like there are more angles here, and points of discussion, the rape culture the taboo topic and discomfort sharing different views might bring about... but I can't be the only one that sees this as distraction tactic... possibly part of the new wave feminism recant or other such something?
     
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    The second stage is still dominated by the sexual eros, but on an aesthetic and romantic level where woman has already acquired some value as an individual.

    The third stage raises Eros to the heights of religious devotion and thus spiritualizes him: Hawwah has been replaced by spiritual motherhood.

    Finally the fourth stage illustrates something which unexpectedly goes beyond the almost unsurpassable third stage: Sapientia. How can wisdom transcend the most holy and most pure? – Presumably only by virtue of the truth that the less something means the more.

    This stage represents a spiritualization of Helen and consequently of Eros as such. ~Carl Jung; (CW 16, par 361, 1954)

     
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    What a trip that was to read your thread....
    I would guess this is a long way from sexual harassment in here so...
    I think I'm in love with you Ciganka.
     
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